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. >> i'm not looking to cut massive taxes and to reduce the revenues going to the government. my number one principle is, no tax cut that adds to the deaf. underline that. no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> rorm's mney's insistence his cut is revenue neutral. monday he floated one idea to a local denver tv station. >> you could do something, for instance, as an option, you could say everybody's going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and use your charitable deduction, home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket if you will, $17,000 bucket, higher income people might have a lower number. >> last night romney ditched the $17,000 bucket and suggested he might make up a number. >> one of the various ways to bring down deductions, a single number, make up a number, 25,000, 50,000. >> yes, make up a number. anyway, who cares about specifics? or facts for that matter? instead, romney tried to remind voters about the president's broken promises. >> the president said he'd cut the deficit in half. unfortunately he doubled it the president did say h
. >> i'm not looking to cut massive taxes and to reduce the revenues going to the government. my number one principle is, no tax cut that adds to the deaf. underline that. no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> rorm's mney's insistence his cut is revenue neutral. monday he floated one idea to a local denver tv station. >> you could do something, for instance, as an option, you could say everybody's going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and use your charitable deduction, home...
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the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he wants to do these tax cuts for the rich. that is the core truth that he has to defend. >> it is hard for him to connect with the middle class when he offers a policy like that. it's more of the same, no doubt. i want to go back to what ezra was talking about, about the economic model that the obama administration had and talking about where unemployment was going to go and how good it was going to be. all of that discussion was being presented to the american people, not knowing that we were going to have is a record amount of filibusters. obstruction is not an excuse. it is a reality. and i believe the
the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he...
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it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear manner. to not seem too long winded as sometimes he has in the past. so that's really his goal and also to make the case about why he thinks he can do a better job in these next four year of turning the economy around and to really give people specifics. as i said, the first lady will be there tonight. it is their 20th anniversary. no time to really celebrate tonight. they say they will do that this weekend. >> quite a way to celebrate. thanks so much. we head tout peter alexander in denver, where mitt romney has been for several days now prepping for the debate this evening. >> you had plenty of sport
it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear...
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of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover every
of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the...
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>> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i want to know what his policy is. >> we're curious about israel, how the relations are going to happen. >> regardless, we have obama or romney. >> thank you. let's go down here. do you have any questions? >> i have a question for romney. >> sure. >> i want to know where is the evidence that tickle down works. >> what? >> how does trickle down work? show me the evidence. >> how does cutting the taxes for the rich help everybody else? thank you. we'll be right back with more "hardball" for tonight and the debate. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new
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he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in
he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't...
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the bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government. >> romney was powerful throughout the debate and almost looking at the president as his prey dominating his responses and dominating, it seems, the moderator, jim leher. >> the president began the segment so i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> he gets the first word of that segment and i get the last word of this comment so let me just make this comment. >> he seems to relish his chance to go one-to-one with the president of the free world. nor did the president forceally challenge mitt romney's policies or his inconsistencies. romney's classic comment about dismissing the 47% of the country that are under various federal programs. his imgags position, romney's jobs in massachusetts to name a few and i have my own personal list which i'll get to. senator michael beties, a democrat here in his home state and michael steele, the former chairman of the republican national committee. both howard and michael are political msnbc analysts. i'll start with
the bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government. >> romney was powerful throughout the debate and almost looking at the president as his prey dominating his responses and dominating, it seems, the moderator, jim leher. >> the president began the segment so i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> he gets the first word of that segment and i get the last word of this comment so let me...
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i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is a jumping-off point to talk about what he needs to do in the next debates to avoid a repeat of this. let's play a clip of an opening romney gave him that he completely missed. >> i'm not looking to cut massive taxes and reduce the revenues going to the government. my number one principle is there's no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i want to underline that. virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. i'm not looking for 5i trillion tax cut. i won't put in a place a tax cut that adds to the def
i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is...
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we need a strong national government to support strong american people. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class politician let the other guy take charge? because if he can't answer that question, he may be doomed to defeat in the remaining two debates. second big question, can a victory over the facts of last night's debate, what was true and what was not, turn the tables now? can barack obama win by getting out the word he didn't get out last night? and both are big questions tonight that might just decide this presidential election. i'm joined by governor ed rendell and ron reagan, both msnbc analysts. this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night,
we need a strong national government to support strong american people. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class...
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that sounds more crazy, because they think the government needs help and the sooner they come to the european zone the better off that's going to be. so they think that's going to be moving things down the road. you also mentioned we'll be getting sales from auto makers today. already we have heard from chrysler. sales were up 11.5% for the month of september. that's the best september we have seen out of chrysler in five years. so maybe that protends good things for the rest of the auto makers today. i'll send it back over to you. >> imported from detroit, those sales figures. becky quick, thank you much. >>> up next, is past is prologue, what can we expect tomorrow night? we'll take our deep dive into the debate styles of the president and mitt romney. look back down their memory lane of one-on-one debates. "the daily rundown," we'll be back in 30 seconds. >>> on our radar, ballots in the buckeye state a ruling on pennsylvania's voter i.d. law and mitt romney sides with illegal immigrant workers. >>> few first, voters in ohio are casting those ballots today. they are able to vote b
that sounds more crazy, because they think the government needs help and the sooner they come to the european zone the better off that's going to be. so they think that's going to be moving things down the road. you also mentioned we'll be getting sales from auto makers today. already we have heard from chrysler. sales were up 11.5% for the month of september. that's the best september we have seen out of chrysler in five years. so maybe that protends good things for the rest of the auto makers...
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how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and not understanding the value the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting and its funding? >> people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last year where 69% of people were in favor of keeping the public broadcasting's funding, and that was across party lines, even conservatives favored keeping it to the tune of i think 53%. >> hmm. >> so it's something people like, and the thing is, it's such a small part of the federal budget. it's less than 0.1%. see if i made $40,000 a year that would be about 56 cents out of my annual budget, would go to public broadcasting. >> that's putting it in perspective. also pointing out, federal funding for public broadcasting has been cut 13% just in the past two years. have we felt an impact from
how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and not understanding the value the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting and its funding? >> people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last...
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regular people who need regular government. it struck me and it must have struck you that this 47% thing that romney said and didn't think anybody was recording, where he said those people don't take care of their own lives. they don't meet their own responsibilities. well, the problem with that is he's attacking people on social security. it seems to me somebody who has been paying payroll tax from the time they were a paper boy or a stock boy from the time they were 14 has taken care and responsibility for their lives. they shouldn't be derided or mocked for not being reliable citizens. did you ever think about that? i'm sure you have. he's attacking basic bread and butter people in this country who worked their whole lives and are living on social security as somehow bums. >> well, he's attacking people on social security, attacking people who are veterans, and you know who else he was attacking if you watch that video, you see the wait staff walking back and forth in front of the camera. in some sense he was attacking them
regular people who need regular government. it struck me and it must have struck you that this 47% thing that romney said and didn't think anybody was recording, where he said those people don't take care of their own lives. they don't meet their own responsibilities. well, the problem with that is he's attacking people on social security. it seems to me somebody who has been paying payroll tax from the time they were a paper boy or a stock boy from the time they were 14 has taken care and...
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you know, you want to talk about trickle-down government. if that means saving the auto industry and proviing a safety net for people who are in need, if that means stopping and averting a great recession from going into a great depression, we will take trickle-down government any day of the week. the governor -- the president is trying but the governor's doing a whole lot of lying. >> should the republicans worry about voter turnout? >> absolutely, they should, ed. and all the voter suppression, tactics that they are using in the state of ohio is just further cementing the cause of folks getting out to vote. people in ohio are excited getting out to vote and that's clearly the first day in early voting where in one county almost 1,900 people, ed, showed up the first day of early voting, far outpassing what happened in 2008. >> the afl-cio said today it registered 68,000 new voters in the state of ohio. that's a heavy lift. >> it is. it's the right kind of lift, ed. >> well, okay. so does president obama need to do more in the state, go reaf
you know, you want to talk about trickle-down government. if that means saving the auto industry and proviing a safety net for people who are in need, if that means stopping and averting a great recession from going into a great depression, we will take trickle-down government any day of the week. the governor -- the president is trying but the governor's doing a whole lot of lying. >> should the republicans worry about voter turnout? >> absolutely, they should, ed. and all the...
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. >> trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government will not create the jobs americans need. >> trickle down government, zing. the crowd there clearly energized by romney's debate performance last night and obama's senior adviser david axelrod praised it as well suggesting it was oscar-worthy, though not worthy of the white house. due to some basic problems with simple veracity. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. an unelected board, appointed board who are going to decide what kind of treatments you ought to have. >> not true, not true, not true, not true. and since mr. romney got the last word at the debate last night, why don't we give the last word today to the president. >> he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american
. >> trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government will not create the jobs americans need. >> trickle down government, zing. the crowd there clearly energized by romney's debate performance last night and obama's senior adviser david axelrod praised it as well suggesting it was oscar-worthy, though not worthy of the white house. due to some basic problems with simple veracity. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. i...
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freesh government, freedom for the individual, the founding documents. these are things we haven't seen a republican candidate talk about and mean on a national stage in many, many years. that was the most liked and popular answer romney gave last night. a conservative describing why the president's policies failed. he was have effective last night. this is a guy from the romney people hate almost as much as -- >> let me bring in keith boykin on this. with health care it seems that the governor is having both ways here. he wants states in control of health care and medicaid, but he says he would have a formula based on what he did in massachusetts if he became president. so that would be some kind of federal health care, universal health care? >> republicans hate obama care, except last night mitt romney embraced tentative bahama care without calling it that. he would he should repeal it and keep the basic principles behind it. republicans hate the idea of redistributing wealth. mitt romney talked about he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy and mid
freesh government, freedom for the individual, the founding documents. these are things we haven't seen a republican candidate talk about and mean on a national stage in many, many years. that was the most liked and popular answer romney gave last night. a conservative describing why the president's policies failed. he was have effective last night. this is a guy from the romney people hate almost as much as -- >> let me bring in keith boykin on this. with health care it seems that the...
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he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions so you wouldn't, you know, necessarily eliminate a loophole, you would limit how much of them -- how many deductions you could take. that would give people discretion. you could figure out how high that should be. should it be a percentage of income? should it be a set figure? there are a lot of ways you can get these things done, willie. but again, if you do it in a campaign environment, you say here's this one, here's that one and people lock in on one side or the other against it, that's not the way to get things done. and that'
he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions...
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i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster debate performance. you indicated the president may have been thrown off by romney's claims, which president obama says aren't what he has been running on. nevertheless, how is your team preparing the president right now to perform differently next time? >> well, you know, the "chicago sun-times" has an editorial that started, "obama on the facts, romney on style." you know, there was a different guy that appeared, as barack obama said, on debate night, that came up with a whole new set of policies and contradicted himself completely from what is the reality of the romney campaign. it's kind
i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster...
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governing vision for the country? you offer a governing vision for the country and then you tell people how you're going to specifically do it. he's accepting the premise of wongish questions that the vast majority of the american people don't understand and probably don't want to understand because it reminds them of a scene from the movie" dave." is the government too big or not? are taxes too high or not? >> or how about this one, do you need revenue or not? what about that one? that doesn't mean anything? >> well, that's the conversation that democrats want to have. >> but don't you think that's the conversation that american people want -- if you tell me you want to look at the deficit and you want to pay our debt for wars, for example, that were not paid for -- as i understand it when you pay for medicare and medicaid and some of the interests, everything else is paid for by loans. from china. if you want to talk about the numbers here, you have to talk about how to pay your bill. that's like having a conversati
governing vision for the country? you offer a governing vision for the country and then you tell people how you're going to specifically do it. he's accepting the premise of wongish questions that the vast majority of the american people don't understand and probably don't want to understand because it reminds them of a scene from the movie" dave." is the government too big or not? are taxes too high or not? >> or how about this one, do you need revenue or not? what about that...
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the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the premise of the question. he'd try and explain it. he'd say, this is where we want to move the country. not about work, but it's been so damaging to sort of accept it and engage in it and embrace it, it is such a losing proposition. even the research from his own campaign must tell him that. >> john, you have previously remarked to me on the fact you regard paul ryan as a smart man. a man that understands numbers. that 47% tape has been out there for almost three weeks and he's making that kind of comment yesterday. is he really that smart? >> well, he's very smart on the budget numbers, but h
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see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is apparently getting tired of managing the increasingly complex patchwork of things they want to block the people in their country from seeing online and so instead they have a genius idea. they are suggesting they may just close off access to the real internet all together and instead build themselves their own internal government approved internet. just for their own country. so it's not really an internet. it is more like an iran-ternet. they will build their own. separate but equal. ridiculous right? but you can understand that sort of controlling dictatorial impulse here th
see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is...
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in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader does it is petty, it's small minded, divisive politics and i have to think this is the kind of small-minded world view that is going to keep obama from being considered a great leader. >> where does he do that? >> where does he do what? >> where does he pit two groups against each other? >> his entire economic philosophy and re-election effort, pitting wealthy america against poor america and in this video, if you listen to all 40 minutes, he talks about the federal government essentially not kbarg black america, whi
in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is...
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the royalties alone are worth $750 billion a year to the federal government. fourth, look carefully at what romney said, that the true supply sides don't necessarily love but it's good politics. he said i will close enough deductions that wealthy americans will not get a net tax cut. now, that's a pretty clear description. >> let me just say this. standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country, by 20%, including the top 1%. mr. speaker, you mentioned that your opponent, mitt romney, had a problem with being dishonest in the primary. my question is, was he dishonest when he said that? >> i think it's clear he changed. >> we don't disagree that he changed. >> let me do this. i want to get a break in. there's several different directions we're going to keep going talking about the economy and the aftermath of the debate. and we want to look forward to the next debate, which is biden and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look
the royalties alone are worth $750 billion a year to the federal government. fourth, look carefully at what romney said, that the true supply sides don't necessarily love but it's good politics. he said i will close enough deductions that wealthy americans will not get a net tax cut. now, that's a pretty clear description. >> let me just say this. standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across...
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say as president he would partner with other nations to help arm the rebels who are fighting assad's government. >>> on our relationship with egypt, romney will make the argument that u.s. aid should be tied to the egyptians upholding their peace treaty with israel. with growing tension over iran's nuclear program, mitt romney says he will not hesitate to put forces in the eastern mediterranean and the gulf region. the obama campaign is downplaying the speech describing romney over the weekend as, quote, an unmitigated disaster on foreign policy and the only person who has offended europe more is probably chevy chase. >>> get ready. mitt romney is continuing to gain ground on the president following last week's debate. a new gallup daily tracking pole shows the president leading the nation 49-46%. mitt romney spent the weekend campaigning in the battleground state of florida telling large crowds that he enjoyed wednesday's debate. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you all had the chance to hear his answers or his not answers, now of course days later we're hearin
say as president he would partner with other nations to help arm the rebels who are fighting assad's government. >>> on our relationship with egypt, romney will make the argument that u.s. aid should be tied to the egyptians upholding their peace treaty with israel. with growing tension over iran's nuclear program, mitt romney says he will not hesitate to put forces in the eastern mediterranean and the gulf region. the obama campaign is downplaying the speech describing romney over the...
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the people in massachusetts have seen how he will govern, are not happy with their former govern. >> interesting. you went after romney in a debate over when exactly he left his position at bain capital, which has been an enormous part of this election. take a listen. >> the fact is you were still signing documents as ceo of the company while you were away. and as a matter of fact, in the summer of 2001, when you were leaving the olympics, you actually made a statement in the paper that in the summer of 2001, you were finally relinquishing 100% control of your position within bain. >> i was out in utah, full-time. i had no responsibility for management at bain capital. i was not running bain capital, and therefore am not responsible for acts of bain capital when i left. >> would the president be wise to bring up bain in the next debate, something he did not do in the first? >> i think the most important thing that he can bring up is the comments about 47%. i think that mitt romney, while he has disavowed them, the fact is the policies he has been talking about during the course of th
the people in massachusetts have seen how he will govern, are not happy with their former govern. >> interesting. you went after romney in a debate over when exactly he left his position at bain capital, which has been an enormous part of this election. take a listen. >> the fact is you were still signing documents as ceo of the company while you were away. and as a matter of fact, in the summer of 2001, when you were leaving the olympics, you actually made a statement in the paper...
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economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i've identified areas where we can, right away, make a change that i believe would actually help the economy. the oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare. basically, they get deductions that those small businesses that governor romney refers to, they don't get. now, does anybody think that exxonmobil needs some extra money, when they're making money every time you go to the pump? why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? why wouldn't we eliminate tax breaks for co
economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it...
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joining us now independent govern governor, and governor sanders, did the president make the case that he's done more for the middle class over the last four years, did he leave that impression? >> well, i think he was not as strong as he should have been. i think he should have made it very clear in reminding the american people that when he came into office after eight years of george bush's policies, which is what romney wants to continue, what we had is 700,000 americans a month losing their jobs because of the deregulation of wall street, which romney wants to continue. we had the american and world financial system on the verge of collapse. an inch away from a world depression. that's what he inherited. has he done all that i would like him to do over the last four years? no, but has he stemmed that disastrous policy and protected the middle class? putting more people into health care, creating jobs for many, many months after the disastrous bush agenda? yes, he has. >> senator hutchinson, the undecided voters are the pivotal swing votes throughout the election. and in certain sn
joining us now independent govern governor, and governor sanders, did the president make the case that he's done more for the middle class over the last four years, did he leave that impression? >> well, i think he was not as strong as he should have been. i think he should have made it very clear in reminding the american people that when he came into office after eight years of george bush's policies, which is what romney wants to continue, what we had is 700,000 americans a month...
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they tried to shape the iraqi government, explored an alternative to maliki and then tried to create a power sharing arrangement which actually didn't occur. there was an extraordinary episode we recount in the book where president obama called the president of iraq jalal talibani and asked him to resign his job to make way for another iraqi politician. he didn't resign his job. so the obama administration was a lot more involved in trying to shape iraqi politics and you would think from just reading the papers. >> we hear from the administration, from the president, we got out of iraq, we solved the iraq war. is it solved? >> well, first of all, it's important to recognize that the goal was not to get out of iraq. actually, it conducted the -- the administration conducted a negotiation with the iraqis, with the aim of legitimizing the presence of some 5,000 american troops. >> with the iraqis refused to accept. >> they refused to accept but also the americans started very late, they opened the negotiation in june, just allowed several months for it. the president was not so directly
they tried to shape the iraqi government, explored an alternative to maliki and then tried to create a power sharing arrangement which actually didn't occur. there was an extraordinary episode we recount in the book where president obama called the president of iraq jalal talibani and asked him to resign his job to make way for another iraqi politician. he didn't resign his job. so the obama administration was a lot more involved in trying to shape iraqi politics and you would think from just...
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and likewise those who are reliant on government are not as attracted to slimming down the size of government. it is not elegantly stated. i'm speaking off-the-cuff in response to a question and i'm sure i could state it more clearly than i did in a setting like that. i'm sure i'll point that out as time goes on. >> joining me now msnbc's alex wagner and chris hayes. the first round of this, he went the rush limbaugh route and explained the comments. he said this is such a golden opportunity. this could be the opportunity for the campaign to take the gloves off and explain conservatism. tonight he says, well that comment i was completely wrong. >> yeah, you know, lawrence the word that has popped into my head in the course of the last 4 hours was labotomy. that is the ome way they are going to believe in the things that he is saying or he has had one. which is the explanation for this pivot. i think what struck me last night was there was bt thn't th attempt to defend this positions to his tax plans to this position on education funding to any number of thing that is he has run on, he white b
and likewise those who are reliant on government are not as attracted to slimming down the size of government. it is not elegantly stated. i'm speaking off-the-cuff in response to a question and i'm sure i could state it more clearly than i did in a setting like that. i'm sure i'll point that out as time goes on. >> joining me now msnbc's alex wagner and chris hayes. the first round of this, he went the rush limbaugh route and explained the comments. he said this is such a golden...
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government's going to do. >> you were at the commerce department. commerce department is always a mix of political and trade issues. how often does a decision like this preliminary decision like this made and then it ends up getting reversed? >> i wouldn't be surprised if the long run trend doesn't change anything at all. there might be an aberration for 30 days through the election, but look, if in fact the mexican tomato growers are always more efficient or effective, over time, they're going to dominate the market. >> i gree up in a part of florida when they say i remember when there were tomato fields all over here. let's move on to the election itself. you are an ambassador in the bush administration. do you understand the romney foreign policy? >> yeah -- i'm not a romney -- >> i know you're not. >> but here's the point. the world is better off and america's better off if there's leadership from the united states. >> you think rhetoric matters is what you're saying. the policy differences aren't much. >> might not be material much, but i think
government's going to do. >> you were at the commerce department. commerce department is always a mix of political and trade issues. how often does a decision like this preliminary decision like this made and then it ends up getting reversed? >> i wouldn't be surprised if the long run trend doesn't change anything at all. there might be an aberration for 30 days through the election, but look, if in fact the mexican tomato growers are always more efficient or effective, over time,...
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governing? >> there's certainly similari similariti similarities. when you're president of the united states, you need to do persuading. there are certain skill sets in common. one of the big differences when you campaign, you can be pretty vague and you can hedge. when you're governing, you have to make choices, and you've got to make decisions that have real policy implications. that's the big difference. >> can you name people who ran bad campaigns and were good presidents, and then people who ran good campaigns. >> i suspect the example of someone running a good campaign but not good as president might be lyndon johnson in '64. he ran a very powerful campaign and won 62%, 63% of the vote but didn't govern effectively. >> you know, john, i think it was sydney bloomentha hal who described it, but the process is eternal. it's endless. i kind of wonder when we talk about the connection between campaign skills and governing skills, if came paining is permanent, it's political too. you understand
governing? >> there's certainly similari similariti similarities. when you're president of the united states, you need to do persuading. there are certain skill sets in common. one of the big differences when you campaign, you can be pretty vague and you can hedge. when you're governing, you have to make choices, and you've got to make decisions that have real policy implications. that's the big difference. >> can you name people who ran bad campaigns and were good presidents, and...
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year when you and the president were in a budget stand off that threatened to shut down the federal government, you voted to continue paying members of congress including yourself in the event of a shut down. at the same time, you voted against a bill that would have ensured that members of the armed services continued to get paid. my question is this, eric. how could you in good conscious vote to continue your own pay but at the same time vote to stop paying our servicemen and women that you voted to send into combat in afghanistan? >> cantor never directly answered the question. do you think we're doing enough for our service members, what about it? >> by not answering it, he answered it. he's never done enough for our service people. he voted against a suicide prevention program for veterans returning from iraq and afghanistan. for every combat loss we have every day, we have 18 people who came back from afghanistan and iraq that commit suicide. the veterans are forgotten in this political gam mot that he has in d.c. he's intent to make sure the wealthiest get the tax cuts. he forgets that
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i voted for it. >> the minimum wage, akin wants to abolish it. >> i don't think that government should be setting the prices or wages on different things. >> making college affordable. akin compared the federal student loans program to stage three cancer. >> america has got the equivalent of stage three cancer of socialism. >> senator mccaskill joins us now. senator, i follow politics i guess my whole life, and these kinds of crackpots used to be the people that ran every four or six years and were regularly defeated in primaries. they were the side show in politics. how did he win a nomination in missouri to run for the united states senate, this guy, todd akin, with his views? >> it was a three-way primary, and the far right, very evangelical, religious base of the republican party, the mike huckabee, rick santorum wing of the republican party coalesced behind todd akin in the primary and in a three-way primary, that was enough. >> earlier this week akin is back in shape here i guess in terms of the establishment. he had this to say about your debating style. take a look. >> the firs
i voted for it. >> the minimum wage, akin wants to abolish it. >> i don't think that government should be setting the prices or wages on different things. >> making college affordable. akin compared the federal student loans program to stage three cancer. >> america has got the equivalent of stage three cancer of socialism. >> senator mccaskill joins us now. senator, i follow politics i guess my whole life, and these kinds of crackpots used to be the people that...
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it is all about that jobs number, and the fed's commitment to help the government try and get americans back to work here. worth also saying that even though they are optimistic about an improvement in this jobs number, the fed's own economic outlook suggests that we're going to see a few weak quarters going forward, and economic growth doesn't really start to get traction until 2013 into 2015. so we could be treading water for quite some time here. interesting to see what that now means for obama's election campaign as we come up to this big presidential vote. back to you. >> and we will see that number less than three hours from now, the september jobs report. geoff, thanks so much. >>> still ahead this morning on "way too early," a little thursday night football for you with the undefeated arizona cardinals taking on the rams. turns out when your quarterback is sacked eight times, it bodes poorly for your chances. highlights ahead in sports. >>> plus -- >> there is no red america! there is no blue america! there is only the america that can't. believe how bad this guy did in the deba
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you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacifi >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he had
you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy...
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he supports arab efforts in their opposition to the syrian government. given the instability of libya and egypt, isn't the president's cautious approach to syria the right one unless, and i repeat, unless we want to get involved in another war? >> hi, martin. well, to be honest with you, i think there is a fairly narrow range of disagreement between the two men here because, as you know, if we think about this kind of a war and we think of all of our range of possible interventions, providing or asking our allies to provide a few more weapons is a relatively modest step along the spectrum. we're not talking about american planes creating a no-fly zone in the romney speech. we're not talking about creation of any kind of a humanitarian protected ground zone up in the north -- >> but, michael, i'm sorry to interrupt you, mike, but we wouldn't expect any details from this man because he never gives us any. t the overarching theme is he wants a new approach. not the approach being expedited by the president. i accept he hasn't gone into details but he doesn'
he supports arab efforts in their opposition to the syrian government. given the instability of libya and egypt, isn't the president's cautious approach to syria the right one unless, and i repeat, unless we want to get involved in another war? >> hi, martin. well, to be honest with you, i think there is a fairly narrow range of disagreement between the two men here because, as you know, if we think about this kind of a war and we think of all of our range of possible interventions,...
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jobs, they spend money on government and create government created jobs through federal expenditures. that's their argument. >> and -- i don't understand the physical metaphor. the vision is gray suited bureaucrats dripping out of a faucet. >> but weird when, you know, half of the republican party or more than half is saying don't cut defense because it's going to cost us so many jobs. >> and that is their -- right. defense is spending of 4% of gdp -- >> trickle down government would be wars, right? >> we have to leave it there, unfortunately, my friend, but you are going to be continuing this conversation. >> oh, yeah. tomorrow on up a.m. we have great sound putting george w. bush and mitt romney side by side to see how much they're taking -- they're playbook correctly from him. >> i never get tired of george w. bush clips. >> we will be practicing our love tomorrow. deep cut. >> oh. practicing our love. yeah. >> coming up, the air up there, former vice president al gore comes up with a unique excuse regarding president obama's debate performance. we will ask our debate panel for th
jobs, they spend money on government and create government created jobs through federal expenditures. that's their argument. >> and -- i don't understand the physical metaphor. the vision is gray suited bureaucrats dripping out of a faucet. >> but weird when, you know, half of the republican party or more than half is saying don't cut defense because it's going to cost us so many jobs. >> and that is their -- right. defense is spending of 4% of gdp -- >> trickle down...
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a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from afghanistan. and, so i think the intervention was legitimate. it was flawed execution, starting with the bush team. president obama surged more forces in there, did some good on the ground. but it didn't produce an afghan government that was competent, and had some sense integrity, the key to afghanistan is pakistan, and possibly, they're on the verge of unraveling also, potentially with nuclear weapons, so tough situation for america.
a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a...
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do we want more government, or do we want to get control of government? to govern is to choose, and the choices are never easy. there are lobbies out there that will fight you on every choice you'll make. they're ready to call you names the second they make a choice they don't like. you heard that heckler here tonight. you have to be tough to stand up to that. but being tough won't help you make the right choice. that makes experience and mature judgment. that's what the presidency needs now more than ever. and that's why i ask you to give me your vote. so that i can give you the government you were promised by the founding fathers. thank you very much. >>> on november 6th, i'm going to win pennsylvania and i'm become to become the next president of the united states. >> mitt romney said that on friday when the republican pennsylvania victory plan was still on track. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylnia. done. >> but a judge today said it's not done. in a huge win for voters rights, the judge blocked the ke
do we want more government, or do we want to get control of government? to govern is to choose, and the choices are never easy. there are lobbies out there that will fight you on every choice you'll make. they're ready to call you names the second they make a choice they don't like. you heard that heckler here tonight. you have to be tough to stand up to that. but being tough won't help you make the right choice. that makes experience and mature judgment. that's what the presidency needs now...
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two of those ways were taking federal government money and one of them was a state tax. the first way was this 385 million annual payment that then-senator ted kennedy had to negotiate for the safety net hospitals. president george w. bush wanted to end that which set off a panic and led to romney and kennedy going to the bush administration and cutting a deal with them. massachusetts could keep the money if they put it toward a universal health care plan. that's how it got started. romney and kennedy were trying to keep this federal money. they wanted that money. then the state did two other things. they first covered everyone they could cover in their medicaid problem so they could get the most possible match from the federal government. right now federal medicaid from the federal government -- that is an incredible deal for people in massachusetts. they're getting subsidized by the rest of the country. and then the third way romney paid for it is massachusetts had long before romney was governor, imposed a tax in order to reimburse hospitals for the care they provided
two of those ways were taking federal government money and one of them was a state tax. the first way was this 385 million annual payment that then-senator ted kennedy had to negotiate for the safety net hospitals. president george w. bush wanted to end that which set off a panic and led to romney and kennedy going to the bush administration and cutting a deal with them. massachusetts could keep the money if they put it toward a universal health care plan. that's how it got started. romney and...